Yeah I need help. I've been wondering for ages how so many of you guys get lots of kills with a very small amount of deaths (5-10). I always seem to have triple the average amount of deaths with my K/D often looking similar to the pic below from a game I just played. I usually do pretty good for kills when I'm not mucking around but my deaths are always insanely high. I dunno what I'm doing wrong cause I do the same sort of thing I see you guys do, just running around with scar and laser, but I always get shot from the sides, run over, sniped, run into clays or run into 2-3 enemies at once. Basically I'm just wondering how you guys get such large amount of kills with such low deaths without sniping.

I'm no expert, but you're possibly doing one of two things; getting too far into the battle and can't get out when you need to, or you're just not killing them quick enough and their buddy picks you off after you kill them.

Be attentive to your surroundings.

Find cover when taking shots for retreat. If your at low health

Don't superman it through places unless your plan is to kill 2-3 and risk the chance of death.

shoot as soon as u see someone.

SHINANIGANS YOUR HOT


Okay Ziah


Heres what you need to do



RUN AWAY!!!

Teach yourself to have a third sense about whats going on around you in the game, use headphones? no? then you should. you need the lesser parts of your mind to know when/where vehicles are so you know where you can and cant walk, just like in real life. Know where cars will go, espcially if they are hooning at a bunker, they will usually fly over a hill and land on top of the bunker, and they aren't too hard to dodge. Alot of people see a car coming at them and try to jump them with strength mode. While this is easy to do you may find that more often or not you cant do it simply because of lag on the driver's behalf WHICHISGAY.

Best way to stop getting shot from the sides - USE YOUR TEAMMATES. It doesnt matter if they arent working with you, you just work with them. Where the enemy will be able to get you from will be determined by where your teammates are and how aggressive or defensive they are. if you move out from a bunker and you move in a direction that puts you between two teammates, you'l probably be safer. Any enemy seeing this happen will have the default reaction of flanking and picking them off from the side. Sticking with teammates will also help when you run into multiple enemies. DONT STAY TOO CLOSE to your teammates because you'll piss them off!! Work with them at a moderate distance, aim to both support them and use them for cover.

SNIPED: this one is easy. Join the team napster or imbaladis is on.

CLAYMORES. Check your corners!! claymores will 90% of the time be in the places which have the highest kill rates, like the inner corners of bunkers and behind doors. Next will be places such as stairways and under bushes. The ones under the bushes are the hardest to see but also have a less likely chance of getting kills depending on where they are and what map it is and the enemies graphics. I raped you on RuinsPS three times in a row with claymores and thats exactly what i was going for (well not the same person but i wanted a good spread), because i put ONE in the corner of a bunker, Another outside the bunker entrance under a rose bush and another around the back in the thick scrub. If the enemy is looking for one type of claymore strategy they won't usually consider the others being used.

Most important thing is running away. If you think your actions are going to attract attention or your severely unsupported.. RUN AND HIDE. Relocate Relocate Relocate constantly. These guys pick the right times to enter battles and then run.

I'm probably not the best to give advice as i don't get the greatest KD's but from what ive learnt in Day of Defeat and from watching the pros on Crywars ive these are the things i've picked up on....


hope that helps!


But i'd never help hope >=(

I cant stay alive for shit, the enemy's buddies love to pick me off AFTER i smash their friend to little pieces.,..

stay back, but not too far back

CharlieFTW wrote:

Be attentive to your surroundings.

Find cover when taking shots for retreat. If your at low health

Don't superman it through places unless your plan is to kill 2-3 and risk the chance of death.

shoot as soon as u see someone.

just follow wat charlie does then u wont have any deaths cause hes soooooo fucking far away u cant shoot him...... just prone from about 500m's back and u wont die at all... am i ight charlie?

nah but srsly... stick to the outsides of the map where u cant get flanked or if u have some sense u will no where ppl will roughly be running onthe other team... ur position also depends on wats u've capped and wat they've capped... i cant tell u too much u gotta firgure som stuff out for urself cause theirs no fun in telling u everything

Thanks trae, the problem I usually have with clays though is I don't have time to check the corners or really do any checking because most of the time I'm taking fire and I just run for cover (inside bunkers or buildings) usually, and use grenades to deter the enemy from comming at me while I recharge health. However that running away idea and staying back from the middle of the fight sounds like a good idea. Usually when I see something being captured or a few enemies I just charge in trying to kill them all which dosen't work that well lol. Especially with bunkers, I never run away from a bunker once I'm in its capture zone, I stay there till I die or its captured, and usually I get into multiway fights at bunkers. I guess I'll try being more sneaky instead of charging like a madman into all the hotzones and instead try to pick off enemies one at a time.

GazzFTW wrote:

CharlieFTW wrote:

Be attentive to your surroundings.

Find cover when taking shots for retreat. If your at low health

Don't superman it through places unless your plan is to kill 2-3 and risk the chance of death.

shoot as soon as u see someone.

just follow wat charlie does then u wont have any deaths cause hes soooooo fucking far away u cant shoot him...... just prone from about 500m's back and u wont die at all... am i ight charlie?

nah but srsly... stick to the outsides of the map where u cant get flanked or if u have some sense u will no where ppl will roughly be running onthe other team... ur position also depends on wats u've capped and wat they've capped... i cant tell u too much u gotta firgure som stuff out for urself cause theirs no fun in telling u everything

Oh posted after I posted. But yeah I usually don't stick to the outsides of the map, I usually charge right into the hotzones because thats where the action is. When I hang back I don't get any kills lol.

im not saying right ont he edges just close enough to the sides where the enemy wont be walking really... if u dont take on board anything we say though then ur not gonna improve then lol... if u just say i do thi rah rah and keep doing it...

Use the bunker cap warning to your advantage... once your contesting a zone the enemy know your somewhere but they dont know where, this gives you the advantage that they are panicing and you know where they are, meaning you get to make the first move.

Thanks for the help Trae and Gazz, tried to follow your advice and got much better K/D's in my matches since, and my first two rampages as well .

read my thread https://clanftw.forumotion.net/general-discussion-f3/how-to-play-crysis-wars-t712.htm


also:



i got that using only claymores and unmodified SMG
Cos and Khmer came in late and i didnt see much of WingChun, probs avoiding him

two things to note: i used clays in sneaky cheap places and not any really really good players were playing.
your KD is affected by how many and whos playing. if more good players are on, expect it to be harder.

move in and out of cover n hang back so you can get people and keep yourself alive, also practice aiming


heres a game played last night with a few of the FTW guys and some TAG guys (who were all on charlies team then left)



use of clays in clever proto and other spots, scar at range and from behind cover, finding cloaked people, good nade throws especially at people hiding on top of energy sites or behind cover, the sniper occasionally (but never sitting in one spot ever). i was constantly on the move and tried to avoid charlie directly, but get him at range, including an awesome sniper shot when he was on one energy site and i was behind the other in bushes at the ground level.

just combine what you know, n try to keep a steady aim, then practice. thats how you begin.

Pretend your Jesus and run in and out gunnin every1 u see

dont wry bout your KD, as long as your kills are higher then the other FTW fucks then that dont matter i dont really get a poss KD anymore but i destroy the rest of the fuckers

zomg check out my cheap dirty high score!




very dirty for combination of clays, bunker rape and getting shots in before others and a few tactics involving speed running to other side of places n stuff to get the jump on the enemy.
also it wasnt really fair at the beginning i guess considering the other players skill but then trae n cos came in and bucket eventually, and my deaths went up a bit more as i got careless n cocky.

DONT GET COCKY!!

and when i came in i think on every encounter i killed u every time??

yeh because FUCK YOU thats why


lol

next time gazz, youre a bit trickier than the other FTW guys. i think youre next out of the FTW all stars i gotta kill a few times...

your time will come

You know Dog, I get the feeling you're posts are more aimed at bragging about yourself since you aren't really offering any help lol.

zing!

ouch =[

HEY thats because i wrote a fuckin maaaassive post before in that thread 'how to play...' which contains alot of tips

and i gave some here...

lol next time im in game, follow me n steal my kills. but if you cloak i swear ill tk you! unless im cloaking lol, which i only sometimes do. but its so annoying when teammates run into a site the enemy is at, and all cloak, cause i know the enemy is cloaking or somewhere and the sound is just so.. urrrgh!


kk maybe ill plan a video as a visual aid to the tips written down. or maybe 3 videos!


EDIT: also its 'your' not 'youre'
i hope my spaces between lines make your head explode gazz

right, everyone follow dog around in cloak mode

One simple thing. Breathe.

omg ziah following me around ARGGH seriously the noise gives me a headache now.. damn you FTW for telling me about the noise!
that, and scanning or binocs, i always hear it and ARGGGGH

GazzFTW wrote:

zing!

LMAO Gazz

Ill follow doggie around and smell his asse and piss on his leg

Stay the fuck away from Hope

run at hope hes a pussy cat, fuck me bob (that wasnt a jk seriously fuck me), who telling who to scan, i would love another person to slag on about scanning, you and tulzer could become freinds, wow freindship still new to some

Jarhead wrote:

Pretend your Jesus and run in and out gunnin every1 u see

stupid much....=='


btw ziah

try using silencers i noticed sumtimes you dont use silencers which then gives away ur position causing every1 within a km radius to come charging at you

Wounded wrote:

i barely ever use silencers, but thats only because i dont like the sound of the gun and because its not currently in my buy script.

use the assault scope its the easiest way to get kills, just prone miles away from the enemy, zoom in with the scope and hold down that button while trying to track where the player is running, u will get shitloads of kills just by hanging back using the assault scope, its so fucking noob its not funny, but everyone uses it because ppl wud rather be alive then waiting to spawn.

claymores are win, if u know where to place them, dont ask syler cuz he just steals other ppls places then claims them as his own.

dont run through the middle of the maps, u will die, Wars is designed for ppl to be able to kill u quicker, by running through the middle of the map ur just leaving urself open to being shot by multi players being able to see u, use plenty of cover, run behind objects.

spectate some of the good players to see where they are running through certain maps, yes this is piss boring, but u will improve by doing it, just look at syler and how much he has improved lately

Ok thanks, I never really use claymores anymore though. Had some massive success when I Invented using them at energy sites on the stairways back in December, but it didn't take long for people to realise what I was up to so that didn't last for long and then I just removed em from my loadouts.

I've started really abusing the doodads with claymores, any time there is a chair or a table with something on it.. BAM claymore on the edge haha

Jarhead wrote:

Pretend your Jesus and run in and out gunnin every1 u see

thats how i try play 8( i got crapper at it though

the problem is, when we get new ideas, we sometimes forget where we got them from and like to take them as our own. yes psychologists know this and ive learnt about it so dont say im wrong, but pretty much a shitload of places people think they 'invented' they pretty much stole from someone else. even if they saw it long ago, and no one used them, and then remembered to use them again after a while.


imo someone should challenge Wounded to a 'clays only' match where you can only use clays to kill.
not me though cause well, it wouldnt be fair for him =P


joking joking ! plz dun hurt me

your dog wrote:

the problem is, when we get new ideas, we sometimes forget where we got them from and like to take them as our own. yes psychologists know this and ive learnt about it so dont say im wrong, but pretty much a shitload of places people think they 'invented' they pretty much stole from someone else. even if they saw it long ago, and no one used them, and then remembered to use them again after a while.


imo someone should challenge Wounded to a 'clays only' match where you can only use clays to kill.
not me though cause well, it wouldnt be fair for him =P


joking joking ! plz dun hurt me

Very sure I'd never seen somebody put clays on energy stairs before I did it. I remember I was trying to cap energy sites and my clays down the bottom where ppl usually put em weren't working and I noticed how people charged up stairs. Oh also I thought of the ultimate spot to put clays nobody will suspect on becah today . Gonna use it next time beach is on.

Ziah wrote:

your dog wrote:

the problem is, when we get new ideas, we sometimes forget where we got them from and like to take them as our own. yes psychologists know this and ive learnt about it so dont say im wrong, but pretty much a shitload of places people think they 'invented' they pretty much stole from someone else. even if they saw it long ago, and no one used them, and then remembered to use them again after a while.


imo someone should challenge Wounded to a 'clays only' match where you can only use clays to kill.
not me though cause well, it wouldnt be fair for him =P


joking joking ! plz dun hurt me

Very sure I'd never seen somebody put clays on energy stairs before I did it. I remember I was trying to cap energy sites and my clays down the bottom where ppl usually put em weren't working and I noticed how people charged up stairs. Oh also I thought of the ultimate spot to put clays nobody will suspect on becah today . Gonna use it next time beach is on.

I lol'd

just coz you haven't seen it doesn't mean you can claim it as your onw. They were used regularly in crysis vanilla.

Flubberguts wrote:

thats how i try play 8( i got crapper at it though

hey flubber thats how i play it still, im still a man, not like the rest of em, dont turn into a cock, the next thing i dont need is another decent player shooting me from the back and side

hahaha i love the mines and claymores one, i saw someone do it one night ages ago and was like OMG!!!! HELL YEAH!!!! and started doing it whenever i could

Lol dog i seen you using my claymore spots in the proto hahaha dont deny it puppy i seen you
I dont care hahaha, i finding the flashbangs are real treat at times nowdays i like it went people rage from getting white screen

Mines and claymores together :O? How does that work?

Went the claymore is trip it sets off the mine causing a wider area damage and a sure kill

Oh, but surely a mine is pretty noticeable .

hahahahaha bucket

yeah i i wont deny i used clays in spots at the proto, cause some of those spots are too good to not use aye?
love how i only just set em down and BOOM i immediately start getting kills



if you place a claymore, then a mine on top of it (cant go the other way around) the mine hides a claymore is there, and usually people think 'lol what noob put a fuckin landmine here?'

easy kill, but only sometimes, people have caught on

Ziah wrote:

when I Invented using them at energy sites on the stairways back in December, but it didn't take long for people to realise what I was up to so that didn't last for long and then I just removed em from my loadouts.

Rate yourself much?

LilbootsFTW wrote:

the next thing i dont need is another decent player shooting me from the back and side

Lilboots ideal level is a long narrow corridor where opposing teams run towards each other and NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO TURN AROUND lest they lose their manhood

Imbaladis tip for staying alive =

Snipe with silenced scar and cloak heaps and when someone is close, bolt your ass to your team mates