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Charlie Senior FTW Member
Posts : 2074 Points : 8204 Join date : 2008-10-03 Age : 37 Location : Adelaide
| Subject: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:04 am | |
| I have been at it for hours reading countless reviews and both cards have there pro's and cons. The outstanding ATI 5970 seem's to be the best single card in the market atm. Although Nvidia fans will tend to argue that.
I've stumbled upon the price range of these two cards. $200-$300 mark for both cards. "GTX470" or "ATi 6870"
I've seen the new Bart architecture that the new ATi 6870's have to offer. Very similar to the Ati 5850's model. from the review's I've read, they'd compared it to the 5850's, 5870's and the GTX 470. But what fascinates me is that the 6870's are a tad bit weaker than there older model "5870". But I believe the focus on this design was to increase the tessellation power in which stand out in some test/reviews.
They compared it to the GTX 470 and to me this card is looking good atm. Not many reviews on it. Besides the recent comparison I had seen wit the new Ati cards.
What are your thoughts, Why do you believe the card you choose is better? and give clear explanations. Might not be the best place to search for an answer. But I do want to hear the thoughts of the community.
Charlie out |
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ColdPreacher Guest
Posts : 2104 Points : 8106 Join date : 2009-02-04 Age : 34 Location : Melbourne
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:34 am | |
| i have used both ati and nvidia. currently run a 460sli.
tbh, the 470 is a great card. good quality. the 6870 is just as good though. however i have run into issues with ATI. though that might be just me
yet....
you play games on your 3D tv do you not? if your wanting to play 3d games go with the nvidia as they have full 3D support. 3D on crysis is hard to play but frkn hilarious lol |
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Charlie Senior FTW Member
Posts : 2074 Points : 8204 Join date : 2008-10-03 Age : 37 Location : Adelaide
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:44 am | |
| From all the reading, 3D totally slipped my mind. My decision is veering to the Nvidia. |
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NapsterFTW FTW Clan Member
Posts : 311 Points : 6232 Join date : 2008-10-03 Age : 35 Location : Hillside Cafe
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:38 am | |
| GTX 460 1GB overclocked to 900mhz air = GTX470+ 6870 is around the 5870 performance mark atm. If you get the GTX470 it should be a mint card. Overclocks well and performs around 5870 and better when overclocked. Its really upto personal preference for either ATI or Nvidia. You can also hold out for a few more weeks for both ATI and Nvidia to release there High end cards. GTX580 comen our way Price drops on GTX480 etc Reason i would go for Nvidia is simple for the Raw power and the way the cards handle AA and they have more Vram. Driver support is just awesome. AA has been improved a lot with Fermi and has hardly any performance impacts. 32x CSAA FTW |
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Mad Aussie Bastard FTW Clan Member
Posts : 234 Points : 5649 Join date : 2010-03-05 Age : 63 Location : New Town,Tasmania
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:01 am | |
| Hear is a link Charlie to OCAU's review on the ATI/AMD's range of Upcoming releases it also has links within the Thread it may help mate I don't know it's that age old issue of Team Green V Team Red,and it always comes down to a personal thing but as always todays tech is tomorrows OOD (Out Of Date) |
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JasonX Guest
Posts : 172 Points : 5964 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 34 Location : QLD
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Thu Nov 04, 2010 3:38 am | |
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Charlie Senior FTW Member
Posts : 2074 Points : 8204 Join date : 2008-10-03 Age : 37 Location : Adelaide
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:16 am | |
| I bought the Ati again. Bang for buck. I will look into the high end cards when I have some extra money. But for a decent price for a mid range, I choose the Ati 6870. Currently running it now. I'm going to do some test to see the difference. from my old 4870 |
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Tulzer Guest
Posts : 960 Points : 6327 Join date : 2010-07-12
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:56 am | |
| AMD? oh and did u get a stock clock or a factory overclock? |
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Mad Aussie Bastard FTW Clan Member
Posts : 234 Points : 5649 Join date : 2010-03-05 Age : 63 Location : New Town,Tasmania
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:10 am | |
| O.o yes let's not foget that Ati cards are now branded as AMD Premium Graphics now lol |
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KarmaFTW Moderator
Posts : 2056 Points : 7891 Join date : 2009-01-02 Age : 35 Location : in the bushes outside your window
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ColdPreacher Guest
Posts : 2104 Points : 8106 Join date : 2009-02-04 Age : 34 Location : Melbourne
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:34 am | |
| either way, they are both good cards. comes down to personal preference. the 6870 does perform better and is better value. good choice charlie (Y).
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KarmaFTW Moderator
Posts : 2056 Points : 7891 Join date : 2009-01-02 Age : 35 Location : in the bushes outside your window
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:38 am | |
| - SylerFTW wrote:
- either way, they are both good cars. comes down to personal preference. the 6870 does perform better and is better value. good choice charlie (Y).
I know Syler is so right on this one, the nvidia brand CAR in the end it's just like the ati CAR, all down to how the driver takes the graphics onto the road. All just great cars in the end. |
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ColdPreacher Guest
Posts : 2104 Points : 8106 Join date : 2009-02-04 Age : 34 Location : Melbourne
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:02 am | |
| lmao karma, dont be like doggy lol. fixed now |
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Charlie Senior FTW Member
Posts : 2074 Points : 8204 Join date : 2008-10-03 Age : 37 Location : Adelaide
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:33 am | |
| Karma, the in built sound that this card has works . But with an expense. You know with HDMI cables, some of them don't play audio. I hope you didn't get a cheapo. That might be your problem. |
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Lilboots Guest
Posts : 2081 Points : 8058 Join date : 2008-11-17 Age : 37 Location : Brisbane
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:42 am | |
| HDMI that dont play audio never heard of it, my 1.99 from japan works a treat |
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ColdPreacher Guest
Posts : 2104 Points : 8106 Join date : 2009-02-04 Age : 34 Location : Melbourne
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:53 am | |
| yeh same, my hdmi plays all my audio fine. wav/mp3/FLAC etc.. |
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KarmaFTW Moderator
Posts : 2056 Points : 7891 Join date : 2009-01-02 Age : 35 Location : in the bushes outside your window
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:12 am | |
| hmm.... that is weird I have a 8800gts 640mb as a media pc hooked up to the plasma and it won't play sound through the hdmi and the optical cable connected to the mobo and plasma don't produce sound. Charlie for my 4890 I have a optical port in the back. I think it might be that ati/amd have audio chips in their cards and your directly connecting to a mini hdmi, whereas nvidia cards aren't at the same level in audio on their cards. |
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ColdPreacher Guest
Posts : 2104 Points : 8106 Join date : 2009-02-04 Age : 34 Location : Melbourne
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:14 am | |
| there may be certain drivers mate?
i had to install some for my gtx460 sli to produce sound on my 3D tv.
have you got the Nvidia HD audio driver installed? |
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KarmaFTW Moderator
Posts : 2056 Points : 7891 Join date : 2009-01-02 Age : 35 Location : in the bushes outside your window
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:19 am | |
| - SylerFTW wrote:
- there may be certain drivers mate?
i had to install some for my gtx460 sli to produce sound on my 3D tv.
have you got the Nvidia HD audio driver installed? The what ..........hd audio? give me, hand it over witch! |
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ColdPreacher Guest
Posts : 2104 Points : 8106 Join date : 2009-02-04 Age : 34 Location : Melbourne
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:36 am | |
| lol it comes with the nvidia 260.99 drivers. you just have to check the option when installing it |
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buckethead121 Senior FTW Member
Posts : 978 Points : 6906 Join date : 2008-10-27 Age : 39 Location : Hamiltron
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:04 am | |
| - KarmaFTW wrote:
- Charlie wrote:
- I bought the Ati again. Bang for buck. I will look into the high end cards when I have some extra money. But for a decent price for a mid range, I choose the Ati 6870. Currently running it now. I'm going to do some test to see the difference. from my old 4870
Karma, Karma, Karma you brand whore still |
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KarmaFTW Moderator
Posts : 2056 Points : 7891 Join date : 2009-01-02 Age : 35 Location : in the bushes outside your window
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:32 am | |
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ColdPreacher Guest
Posts : 2104 Points : 8106 Join date : 2009-02-04 Age : 34 Location : Melbourne
| Subject: Re: GTX 470 or ATI 6870?? Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:49 am | |
| you forgot to finish the sentence mate ....your finishing too fast...last a little longer lol |
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