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Earz4life Guest
Posts : 457 Points : 6297 Join date : 2009-02-17 Location : Lurking
| Subject: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:29 am | |
| Looking at upgrading my computer for Crysis 2 late this year/early next year, Current specs: i7 920 @2.66ghz 6gb RAM @ 2000mhz Asus P6T mobo 2x Seagate Barracuda 500gb HDDs in RAID-0 1200W Thermaltake Toughpower PSU (Dont comment on this - technologically inept and very rich ex-girlfriend bought it for me) Nvidia GTX 260, OC'd to 650mhz engine, 1352mhz shader, 2160mhz memory. I'm thinking about an EVGA superclocked 470: http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=012-P3-1472-AR&family=GeForce%20400%20Series%20Family&sw=Worth it? Worth looking to upgrade in other areas? I also currently have a script in place that lets me use graphics acceleration in CS5 and Maya, not sure how effective it is though, and as this is a working computer I want that extra power. |
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KarmaFTW Moderator
Posts : 2056 Points : 7898 Join date : 2009-01-02 Age : 35 Location : in the bushes outside your window
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:47 am | |
| Do you experience lag in your programs and games? |
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Earz4life Guest
Posts : 457 Points : 6297 Join date : 2009-02-17 Location : Lurking
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:56 am | |
| Not much really, but I have noticed that my rig can still struggle at top-end settings, and I'm not even using an HD screen at the moment. Maybe I've been flogging my graphics card a little too much, I dunno. |
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KarmaFTW Moderator
Posts : 2056 Points : 7898 Join date : 2009-01-02 Age : 35 Location : in the bushes outside your window
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:00 am | |
| I don't see a logical reason to upgrade now for a game that will be released next year and can also work on 390 and ps3. I would wait till the time is right. |
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bob Senior FTW Member
Posts : 1052 Points : 6915 Join date : 2008-10-02 Location : M Town Massive
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:02 am | |
| Overclock your Cpu, & get a new Graphics card.
A single 480, or 2 x 460 (not sure if your motherboard supports sli), or wait for Ati revised cards towards the end of the year.
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cosmic Senior FTW Member
Posts : 2001 Points : 8122 Join date : 2008-10-08 Age : 51 Location : The cosmos
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:46 am | |
| +1 to bobby OC the CPU first m8...at 3.6 you will see a big difference to the GPU speed also. |
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ColdPreacher Guest
Posts : 2104 Points : 8113 Join date : 2009-02-04 Age : 34 Location : Melbourne
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:33 am | |
| Gtx460. 2 of them are cheaper then a single 480 |
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your dog FTW Clan Member
Posts : 3060 Points : 9275 Join date : 2008-10-28
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:44 am | |
| I'm gonna wait til i actually get Crysis2 before I consider upgrading. If I do it'll be again on a budget of $1000 which should be plenty for a good box then, as I won't need new monitors, keyboard or mouse (though considering a new mouse).
Given my computer can still play everything alright and it could play Wars at decent framerate, I should be okay. Otherwise I'll see if I can get an i7 or something, good graphics card (not sure on nvidia or ATI at the moment.. see how mine handles C2), 6 gb ram and run it on 64bit win7. Maybe even a solidstate drive if im feeling craaaaazy but that'll up the cost, so just a terrabyte HDD will do. Of course, I'll still have my shitty net to play on so that'll make me suffer anyways. My current box can be for everyday stuff and the new one for more demanding tasks. |
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Lilboots Guest
Posts : 2081 Points : 8065 Join date : 2008-11-17 Age : 37 Location : Brisbane
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:16 am | |
| wat bob said is spot on, the new so called cards coming out from radeon are smicko, im a nvidia all the way but im thinking of going to the dark side for these cards, they look totally 480 destroying
oh and yea wait for the game, and get less ram, 6g of 1333 will do you sweet, for no diff besides the price
boots out |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:41 am | |
| Yea i have heard about ears rig it was like a e 8400 with ddr2 and a GTX 260
Nice upgrade BTW
The only downside to running the new GTX 400 series is that they lag on like basic games like MW2 and some others going from a 9800 GTX + to a GTX 260 i was like WTF . This is due to to the realy high latency timing on the GFX card going from GDDR3 TO GDDR5 |
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Virtuoso X Guest
Posts : 1471 Points : 7097 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 33 Location : 7th Pitt of Hell
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:01 pm | |
| i have a GTX480 and i dont notice any kind of lag, when playing on the 260 i noticed alittle bit, but the 480 eliminated it.
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:21 pm | |
| - Virtuoso X wrote:
- i have a GTX480 and i dont notice any kind of lag, when playing on the 260 i noticed alittle bit, but the 480 eliminated it.
Na playing on 1 of nappy bois GTX 460 i was like WTF playing MW2, dunno if it was coz my i didnt have enough memory of some shit but i would have to say the best gaming experiese i had was with my 9800 GTX with Mw2 and all other game hands down. |
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ARNY84FTW Senior FTW Member
Posts : 722 Points : 6664 Join date : 2008-10-04 Location : Newcastle
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:10 pm | |
| I would do as Bob and cos have said with the Cpu, as for the Gpu, 260's in sli would be fine and the cheap way out but if you want to play in dx11 you need the next gen in cards. With that Psu you have you could run 480's in sli no brob's and all setings on high. Just need the 1.3k to pay for them lol. |
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Earz4life Guest
Posts : 457 Points : 6297 Join date : 2009-02-17 Location : Lurking
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:07 pm | |
| I did the OC, shits faster now but most things seem jittery as fuck. Vanilla Crysis runs nicely, everything max AA2x stable 30frames. Strangely though GTA4 is extremely jittery, even though its running at lower stats than Crysis. Also firefox has become a little jumpy.
All I did to overclock was change the CPU multiplier to 20x and my BLCK to 150. Is there something i haven't accounted for?
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Virtuoso X Guest
Posts : 1471 Points : 7097 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 33 Location : 7th Pitt of Hell
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:13 pm | |
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Tulzer Guest
Posts : 960 Points : 6334 Join date : 2010-07-12
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:13 pm | |
| gta 4 was fucky with me as well, only managed a max frame rate of like 30 with most settings |
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Earz4life Guest
Posts : 457 Points : 6297 Join date : 2009-02-17 Location : Lurking
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:22 am | |
| I don't see how there could be any problem with RAM, I checked and everything else seemed fine to me. |
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ColdPreacher Guest
Posts : 2104 Points : 8113 Join date : 2009-02-04 Age : 34 Location : Melbourne
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:58 am | |
| gta 4 is real performance user. i'm assuming you would need a top of the range computer to run it normally. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:06 am | |
| or you could be normal and play it on xbox |
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Virtuoso X Guest
Posts : 1471 Points : 7097 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 33 Location : 7th Pitt of Hell
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:22 am | |
| - Earz4life wrote:
- I don't see how there could be any problem with RAM, I checked and everything else seemed fine to me.
idk if its with other processors but when i OC my cpu it OC my RAM with it, anything over the recommended speed will seriously play up. what cpu you got earz? |
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Earz4life Guest
Posts : 457 Points : 6297 Join date : 2009-02-17 Location : Lurking
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:19 pm | |
| Running an i7 920. Also there's no point in OC'ing the RAM, its already at 2150MHz |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:06 pm | |
| i was under the impression that to OC the cpu clock you HAD to OC the ram.... |
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Earz4life Guest
Posts : 457 Points : 6297 Join date : 2009-02-17 Location : Lurking
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:13 pm | |
| Yeah I dunno I dont do much overclocking, you're probably right. |
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bob Senior FTW Member
Posts : 1052 Points : 6915 Join date : 2008-10-02 Location : M Town Massive
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:38 pm | |
| Not sure on the i7 motherboards, but in general your Cpu clock is related to your memory speed. There should be an option for host:memory ratio in your bios. So increasing your FSB increases ur memory speed as well, pending on the ratio.
Simple check is to run Cpu-z and see what speed your memory is running at, as you may have overclocked or down clocked it. Overclocking too much will make your system unstable
Ive found that Overclcoking memory doesnt help speed your system up that much, better to get it to run close to its original speed.
Anyway im sure someone else can help you more, specifically for i7's cause im pretty sure they control memory differently.
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Virtuoso X Guest
Posts : 1471 Points : 7097 Join date : 2009-12-29 Age : 33 Location : 7th Pitt of Hell
| Subject: Re: Worth it? Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:40 pm | |
| Alrighty Earz, make sure your QPi link is set to manual, it might be at 7Ghz have a look input the value manuallty insted of it on Auto (6x or 8x).
Your ram Automatically OC with CPU but you can control that, Im assuming your ram can handle 2150 Mhz? you can manually input the value for the ram multiplyer, sometimes having it too high will cause system instability, what i usually do is also set the Ram voltage manually insted of Auto since ALL X58 boards MUST run ram at 1.65 V (or lower nothing higher ) ive got mine set to 1.64v also all your voltages should be on auto to test it out at start then decrease.
EIST, C1E, Hyperthreading = Disabled for best stablility and performance,
also known as speedstepping etc etc, anything "envirmentally friendly" needs to be disabled or itll be like your running stock.
Also what motherboard you got?
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