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PostSubject: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 6:51 am

I was wondering if I am playing a dvd through my HDMI port into my tv that supports 720p will my pc auto upscale everything to 720p or will I need extra codecs/plugin's/programs to do it. If so what do I need?
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 6:56 am

...i dont understand the question......ur the dvd movie on any dvd cannot be upscaled, it is how it is....more to come later Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 7:55 am

Isn't their DVD players that can upscale the dvd to hd tho. so why couldn't my pc do it as well
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 7:58 am

Let me rephrase the question, Can my pc upscale a dvd from the dvd standard 420p to 720p?
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 8:04 am

they could increase the resolution of the tv to a hd level, but not the resolution of the movie, which in turn would be stretched over th larger resolution of the screen


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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 8:05 am

Hmmm annoying, maby i'll get a blu ray player.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 8:06 am

YES
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 8:11 am

But what I don't get is that if a dvd player can do it why can't a pc? Does anyone else have any awnsers?
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 8:20 am

since when can a dvd player do it is what i want to know??!?!?!?
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 8:33 am

'upscaling' doesnt mean shit. your still getting 420 regaurdless of how big the screen is. nothing can change that.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 8:38 am

^ +1 of what i know, if the DVD its self doesnt support it, you will get pixelation all over.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 8:48 am

if u want ur dvd movie to be stretched to ur pc's monitor screen resolution, then get a better movie player
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 8:53 am

or download bluray rips
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 9:19 am

Hmmm interesting. O and to awnser your question tulzer look at this http://www.virginmedia.com/digital/digitalhome/advancedguides/upscalingdvdplayers.php kinda downs what traelium was sayin in some ways.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 9:29 am

that is a technology used by some dvd players that artificially sharpen the picture to try and give it to you in partially better way. But as they said it wasn't much better and it isn't real upscaling the resolution its just adding filters to the picture......u ever used Adobe b4?

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Shouldn’t I get a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player instead?
If you want true High-Definition pictures, then yes you should.


therefor this statement backs up what i'm saying which is that it is a fake artificial High definition!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 9:34 am

You can't extract more information from a DVD that can't hold that much, all it can do is like the guys said stretch and apply filters to make it appear of better quality. You can only squeeze a certain amount of data out of a DVD.

I Second Blu Ray Rips although it hurts the download quota. 4-12gb+ per movie
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 9:40 am

that article has no impact on what i said. it even says it's results are shit.

I can tell you without even looking into it that 'upscaling dvd players' is a marketing scam, because any dvd player will play a 420 movie on a 1080 screen in the exact same way, whether the dvd player does the upscaling or the tv, it makes no difference, you're still just looking at the images at 400% zoom, whether it uses 'smart pixel sharpening' or not.

the only way you could possibly upscale it with any success in quality gain is using a scaling fractal algorithm, which as far as i know currently only exist for the use of photographic printing, and they can scale up to 10x magnitude without loss of quality. it would take a huge amount of hardcore CPU power to do a 25fps 2x fractal scale.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 9:45 am

personally i like to buy them to get the full FPS out of them....avatar at 20-23 FPS = Pritty bad shit...hated it

one more thing, i got a Samsung 40" LCD full HD, it only runs at a max 60Hz and the tv receives only up to 60Hz signal wise(i think), yet they have a technology that is called 100Hz which makes the picture appear to be running at 100Hz.....its a technology not the real thing
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 9:50 am

my 3dtv says 200Hz lmao. cant tell the difference tbh
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 9:53 am

that's because of alternate frame display or some shit to get the 3d effect @ 100Hz
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 9:53 am

if its a sony, it probably is more legit than samsung......mines a oldie series 6 i think
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 9:55 am

naa a 55inch samsung. did look clearer when i was watching state of origin in 3d altho it might have just been me
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 9:59 am

it does make it smoother, but in my experience it sometimes makes up and down movement of the camera a bit jolty......once again mines old and technology has advanced


they use to make the 100hz effect by strobing the back light to fill in the missing hz
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 10:01 am

lets all settle down and have some cake Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 10:42 am

the 200hz 3dtv is currently one of the best you can get.

mind you im happy with my g10a i score for 1500$
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 10:46 am

I saw in a catalouge a tv from samsung that supported 600hz.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 10:54 am

plasma and that is sub field which is full of shit, and yet another technology and not the real thing
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 11:01 am

Thought so. lol well still cool.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 11:04 am

TraeliumFTW wrote:
the 200hz 3dtv is currently one of the best you can get.

prices have been going down tbh regret not waiting a little. could of waited a bit but meh 2 late now
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 11:06 am

there is a new version of 3d technology coming out soon that will be a heap better than the current apparently
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 11:08 am

yeah this 3d tech is essentially betatech. they'l have ones that dont need glasses and work on 180 angles in a few years, no point getting one till then.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 11:09 am

how exactly would 3d without glasses work? a form of projection?
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 11:25 am

the nintendo 3ds has it. its simply now a matter of making the screen bigger and finding an 'ips' kinda solution to the angle problem.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 11:29 am

hmm i see. just saw the device and i gotta say it looks awesome
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 11:39 am

not just that, there are polymerized screen ones(like imax), that dont need a projector, very rare tho i think only 1 company makes them
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 12:24 pm

at the end of the day, unless you've got a 1080p TV with all the proper leads (HDMI), Any HD surround sound system and a blu ray player that supports 1080p (As I understand not EVERY blu ray player is proper 1080p), you're not going to get the proper HD experience!

So save about 5000 bucks and go wild, also...do as trae says and dont buy 3D, just get a high quality LED LCD TV.

Its like all the ppl that buy PS3's hoping for that sweet HD movie experience...they run em on cheap shit LCD's. It's all 'lol I wasted my cash!'
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 12:37 pm

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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 12:41 pm

ps3 is a pretty sweet solution for a home media experience. i havent tried the viera software coz i dont have net, but the samsung software ive seen at my mates place is also pretty sweet.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 12:47 pm

is viera really that good? or is it another 'Splendid' fad.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 12:51 pm

dunno havent used it. im sure its fine, but the samsung software has a nicer interface and can automatically play movie files across the network as it is and has inbuilt xbmc-style functionality.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 12:54 pm

at the end of the day you should be buying a tv based on quality and value. my g10a is still the best for quality and price, and has fantastic sound, removing any need for a sound system. callibrated like all screens and monitors should, it has flawless picture quality with no ghosting or glitches ever, great gamma and crispy blacks.





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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 12:57 pm

lol Trae, 40" How in the hell can you play on that thing lol.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 1:07 pm

its a tv, i dont 'play' anything on it. and its a 46. all vierra come in 46 and 50 and some even higher regaurdless of model. plenty big enough for my apartment.

in my opinion anything bigger then 46 is a waste because you're crossing the line of detail per inch as theyre all still just 1080 spread across a fatter area. size generally reduces quality.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 1:14 pm

Ahh ok, thought you played pc on it.
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PostSubject: Re: DVD upscaling   DVD upscaling EmptyThu Jul 22, 2010 3:36 pm

If you got a xbox 360 you can always use h/[url=tversity]http://tversity.com/[/url], this will let you stream video and audio from a home network. I been using this to watch non xbox 360 compatible format such as flv, ect. Works great , also been using my bros wii with home brew channel and a 1tb hdd with it as a home media center, it does the job good only thing doesn't have HDTV since the hardware is not powerful enough (don't have a hdtv so not really a big deal)
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