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PostSubject: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptySun May 16, 2010 2:52 pm

ok. so a days ago i noticed my comp was going a bit sluggish so i pulled it apart blew it out with my compressor then put it back together. When i started it nothing happen sept the light on the front and the fans. So then i took it apart again and 1 of my stick of ram were fucked. so took that out and booted it up its still sluggish.

so would that mean that stick of ram was ruined a few weeks b4 it started to go slower and slower? or is just my cpu slowly getting older?

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mother board: MSI MS-7529 ( only max ram is 4 gigs of 800mhz )
GPU: 9800 gt 1gig
cpu: core 2 quad Q8200 at 2.33ghz ( im not looking at ocing as my mobo wont let me go any higher then 2.4 or could u help me with that? )
PSU: 550watt
ram: 2gigs 800mhz

plz tell me what going on. it isn't my gpu coz i chucked it in my old pc and ran alright.

or is it just low ram and buy some more?
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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptySun May 16, 2010 4:24 pm

its only natural for a computer to go sluggish after time.
id recommend a new HDD as 99% of the time thats the culprit, get a 10,000RPM HDD, and use ur current one has a external / additional one.

id also recommend investing in a new computer, or some serious upgrades for crysis 2.

some sites that you can get sites from:

centrecom.com.au
msy
scorptech
pccasegear.com

also, be carefull while using air compressors, do you use the pipe or the can? sometimes it can knock loose a capacitor which will stop your computer from booting and give it random restarts.

Edit: Or if you cant afford a 10,000 RPM hdd get this, 1TB 64mb cache, and 6gb/s so its double the speed of most standard HDD http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=43885
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nah i take off the fans and take out the gpu to blow it all out and its about 30cm away from the side.

yea i thought it might be the hard drive coz u can hear it going then freezes.

and im getting a new comp around about sept
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nah i take off the fans and take out the gpu to blow it all out and its about 30cm away from the side.

yea i thought it might be the hard drive coz u can hear it going then freezes.

and im getting a new comp around about sept

if your getting a new comp. best thing to do is buy a nice cheap HDD, unless you have patience with a HDD thats sluggish. what HDD have u got btw? seagate?
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western digital its only a cheap shit 1 500 gigs idk the specs on it but yet its low quality

ok the green bar is cpu or hdd idk

yellow means ping jump which i had a few ppl on the net at the time and blue is gpu

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when it freezes the green bar spikes down, seems like your HDD is on its verge of extinction Razz
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only if its lasts for me to back up all the shit on it will be fine hope its the only problem
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you can always do a disk defrag, and disk cleanup.
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Virtuoso X wrote:
you can always do a disk defrag, and disk cleanup.

doing it now but yea im gonna get a new hdd mine is getinga bit old had it for 4 years now
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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 2:15 am

Oh
Download Cclean http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner

run the cleaner and then do a registry clean.

winstatdir http://windirstat.info/

then use this program to see what is using up most of your hdd space and delete all the shit you dont need

and once you have done all this do a Windows Disk Defrag

and tell me how she runs.

i will take a look at your MOBO and see is you can overclock it more
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SHOOT IT, grab a $52 500GB one from centrecom Very Happy http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22&page=1&sort=3a&products_id=37086

Your mother shuda shot you when you where born.
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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 2:23 am

As for you mother board try and do a update of the bios and see if you are able to adjust the FSB frequency, and update all the Chipset drivers from MSI, when you try and overclock do u only get a overclock profile or are you able to adjust clocks separately try and take a picture of you bios in the overclock section.

And you also might wanna try and replace the ram, the two sticks of ram that you have are they the same, make shure that they are as this could also be the problem, and make shure that your MOBO supports the ram that you buy, i would also get rid of the other old stick of ram and get some corsair with realy low latency timmings like DDR2 800 4-4-4-14 or some shit like that.


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Your mother shuda shot you when you where born.

rofl!
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^^ lies, when thers a will thers a way (:<
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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 2:42 am

thejoker wrote:
swing and a miss, keep it on topic u........

his hdd is seemingly dying, cleaning the reg and all that shit wont help, once the hdd starts to die there is no stopping it


here have a tampon for ur period u frustrated child

Some one call NAT Geo and tell em i found the missing link betwen human and apes.

Dumb Shit


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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 2:43 am

So you telling me when your house get all dirty and shit you dont clean it.

You shud change ur name to HONKIE.... and have a avatr of miss piggie..
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^^ Pooned!!
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i need pc help Misspiggyiyn


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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 3:01 am

But still a new HDD would be better any ways, 4 years yea that is pretty old but hey, if you try it and it works happy B day.

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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 3:02 am

thers always ways to speed up the HDD, by disabling auto fetching, and indexing, and disabling startup programs.

msconfig in the run prompt and disable everything you dont need to start up automatically
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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 4:35 am

i agree with wounded, get a SSD id say atleast 2xfaster than HDD....just remember never to defrag it Razz
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Yip SSD are they way of the Future bit pricey though,
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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 5:38 am

yea, should be the standard for all PCs tho, i might invest in a 200 GB for my OS to speed its laggyness.

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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 6:01 am

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As for you mother board try and do a update of the bios and see if you are able to adjust the FSB frequency, and update all the Chipset drivers from MSI, when you try and overclock do u only get a overclock profile or are you able to adjust clocks separately try and take a picture of you bios in the overclock section.

And you also might wanna try and replace the ram, the two sticks of ram that you have are they the same, make shure that they are as this could also be the problem, and make shure that your MOBO supports the ram that you buy, i would also get rid of the other old stick of ram and get some corsair with realy low latency timmings like DDR2 800 4-4-4-14 or some shit like that.

well i went to update my bios but do u have a guide i could use im a bit slow on these things. When i go to over clock all i can do is change the fsb but nothing else.

and for the ram i know what im getting but is G.Skill a good brand?

thnx for the help so far
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i have a guide on how to OC you must follow an equation to and from your Vcore, Uncore, and Ram settings. if you never OC'd before best to read up as much as possible as it can give u a head fuck if you get it wrong the first time.
G.Skill, sounds good o_O

Be extreamly carefull whilst updating bios, if thers nothing wrong with ur bios settings / configs on the ram, hdd etc, then best leave it as it is, i also have a guide on this id post a link when i get back home from tafe.
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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 11:27 am

As for bios, its best to check your mobo website for a guide, if you want to update bios remember to do it BEFORE OC, after you updated bios youd want to reset OPTIMISED defaults, not factory heres the site which checks for updates from msi http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=downloadindex

if you have time this for learning about OC for general OC http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/oc-guide.html

heres a guide specifically for Q8200 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/overclock-phenom-pentium,2366-12.html
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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 11:43 am

i decided to leave all that for now im gonna get a new pc near sept. but i will be getting a new hdd hope that fixes my problem
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So you made us all waste our time trying to help you WTF is wrong with you.
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i think i love you illicit Razz
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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 4:59 pm

nah i will be oc as soon as i get my new comp so it isn't really a waste and is a GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R X58 SKT1366 MOTHERBOARD good to over clock without updating the bios.

and what cooling is good for over clocking?


and ty for the guides for over clocking will help in the long run
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PostSubject: Re: i need pc help   i need pc help EmptyMon May 17, 2010 7:35 pm

what i7 you getting? i say update your bios if your getting an i7, ive had some tech issues with multiple i7 builts with out bios updates - ram incompatibility / cpu stepping identification, updating bios might seem alittle >.< but gigabyte have a sexy guide / easy to follow.

id say thermalright true black is a great air cooler, with a push pull config, youll b able to OC an i7 920 to about 4-4.5 depending on the stepping, with no probs.

P.S dont listen to joker, hes joking, if you do what he says youll fry your motherboard because your uncore / vcore voltages will be HIGHER than needed. And you cant change the multiplyers to 22 on i7920 you douche!

i suggest you read more on OC'ing joker.

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i give it 1 year before it burns itself =]
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im getting i7 930 and is it a good cpu for over clocking?
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Yea ody, try and get a D0 stepping Razz its easier / better to OC, if you dont know bout the steppings dont worry bout it, but dont do what jokers telling you, if you have the voltages at auto you will have abot 5 degrees more heat then needed, and almost always fuck up the comp.
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ok this is the specs of what im getting

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INTEL CORE i7 930 2.8GHz 8MB SKT1366 CPU
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R X58 SKT1366 MOTHERBOARD
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GeIL 4G KIT DDR3-1600 (2x2G)
Hard Drive
SEAGATE 500GB SATAII 16MB HARD DRIVE
Video Card
GIGABYTE 5770 1GB
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THERMALTAKE V9 MIDI CASE
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THERMALTAKE 700W POWER SUPPLY
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its simple logic more voltage you need = more heat production, less voltage used = less heat production.
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looks all good, try 6gb ram insted of 4gb and install 64bit =D
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im not getting a better gpu until i get crossfire 5870 and that will be a few months after

and yea im getting 8 gigs of ram instead and 64bit of cause
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[quote="thejoker"]save for a better graphics card.....

and well voltage is minimal......so why would it be higher? it sits at 35 when idle and 70 when full load[/quote

you dont get what im saying, you said you have your voltages on auto which makes them HIGHER then needs too.
if you set them manually lower, youll get bettwe temps. having them on auto is useless for heat reductions.
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i guess if its all stable its fine, but your temps can be better if u set the manually.
when i oc my i7 i dont ever go over 1.45 when i oc from 2.6 to 4-4.5


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What u OC from and to?

This is my comp.

i7 920 @ anywere from 2.66 to 4.5 depends on my mood
EX58-Extreme Mobo
1tb
GTX260
6Gb DDR3 @ 1600 Ram
Air Cooler with push pull config.
770w Zalman XT psu.

Future upgrades include GTX480 hopefully on my birthday. and another 1.5TB HDD or 200 GB SDD.
probably get some more ram too.


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i7 920? what stepping?
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D0 stepping, explains why......i have c0 crappy lol. Do you disable C1E and EIST?
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brb gone OCing guna see 4Ghz from this profile i downloaded.
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so whats the best air cooler for under $100?
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id say Thermalright True Black with a push pull config for about 80 bux at pccasegear.com Very Happy
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what temps you get joker? im currently on 4.2 ghz and idle 39-45 load 70-80
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they were too buggy for me (64bit) i have a whole set of tools that are practically flawless.

Realtemp.
Furmark (Razz)
prime95
orthos
3d mark vantage
even though i still got nvidias tools as they display some info which those cant Very Happy
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