guys u seem pretty smart, any suggestions on a new gaming pc?

currently got E6850 @ 3.0ghz
2GB 667mhz BUDGET RAM thats fucked up
GTX 260 TOP 685/1475/1180
some black case
a 19" moniter
some shitty intel classic m-board
a 825W psu with only 37 amps? WTF

anyways im up for a change as it crashes too much

budget = $3000 (only cos dad uses the pc aswell)

want I7 cpu, and a moniter ATLEAST 1920x1080
people help me out please?

either you or your dad should be claiming it on tax too so you get Krudd to give you back some real $$$ so long as you or your dad is working. That should sweeten the deal a little more and I can only assume you are already claining the cost of your internet connection. Dunno what % you should claim, but certainly speak to your tax accountant about that too.

[F_CK] Danielle wrote:

either you or your dad should be claiming it on tax too so you get Krudd to give you back some real $$$ so long as you or your dad is working. That should sweeten the deal a little more and I can only assume you are already claining the cost of your internet connection. Dunno what % you should claim, but certainly speak to your tax accountant about that too.

ok thanks

ok ive come up with this tell me wat u think:
{CPU}
NEW!! Intel i7-920 Core i7 CPU, 2.66 GHz, 4.8 GT/sec QPI, 8MB Cache, Socket LGA1366 = $425

{RAM}
Corsair TR3X6G1333C9 6GB (3x XMS3 2GB) PC-10600 (1333MHz) XMS DDR3 For X58 MB/i7 Core,
3x240-pin DIMMs, Triple Kit, 9-9-9-24, 1.65V = $138

{MotherBoard}
Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5 MB, Intel X58+ICH10R, QPI 6.4GT/s, DDR3 2000, PCI-Ex16,
SATAII, RAID, IDE, 2xGbE LAN, 8ch audio, 2oc PCB,USB2, Heatpipe. = $411

{Power Supply}
1000W "Silverstone" ST1000 Power Supply, Dual +12V, 100% Modular cables,
Silent 135mm fan, Active PFC, Over 80% efficiency = $297

{Case}
NEW! Antec "Nine Hundred Two" Tower Gaming Case w/Side Window - Black, NO PSU, 9 Drive Bays,
Top mounted 200mm exhaust fan, Top USB/eSATA/Audio, ATX = $215

{Optical Drive}
LG GGC-H20L BLK BluRay Combo, 6X BD-R, 3X HD-DVD, 6X DVD+-R, 5X DVD-RAM,
4X DVD+-R DL-LightScribe (Vista Ready) -Ret Pack = $171

{Hard Drive}
WESTERN DIGITAL WD3202ABYS CAVIAR RE3, 320GB, 7200RPM, 16MB, SATAII = $202

{Graphic Cards}
2x Gigabyte GF GTX 260+ (216SP) PCI-E 2.0 896MB GDDR3 448-bit, 576/1998MHz,
Dual-Link DVI/ HDCP supported, Smart Fan, Games included. = $586

{Sound Card}
Asus Xonar D2X PCI-Ex1, 7.1, 118dB = $238

{RAM cooler}
Corsair DOMINATOR Airflow Fan for Triple Kit DDR3,
Supports up to 6 Memory Modules in a Motherboard Array = $56

{CPU cooler}
Thermalright TRUE COPPER CPU Heatsink for Intel Socket 775,
Intel Core i7 Processor (optional), AMD Socket AM2 & AM2+ Processor = $151

{FAN for cpu cooler}
Antec "TriCool" 120mm Blue LED Case Fan with 3-Speed Switch, 120x120x25.4mm,
3/4-pin connectors, Speed: 1200~2000RPM, Noise: 25dBA~30dBA = $29


TOTAL = $2919

PS. will i be able to tri-sli my standart gtx 260 with the 2x 216's?

$202 for a 320GB HDD??? Is that for three of them or something? Don't waste your money on an "Enterprise" drive. For that amount of money you can get two WD 640GB drives which will run much quicker.

You also don't need a 1000w PSU. That system would use around 400-500w under 100% total system load, so you're in excess of 50% headroom, which is heaps. If you're going to tri-SLI then yeah, keep the 1000w. But a 650w would do you fine, for 2/3rd's the cost.

Have you checked to see if the soundcard will fit with all those video cards?

fuck the sound card. and no way it will fit.

fuck more then 1 video card. think they are going to sell for anything when they are outdated? better off with a flagship card and going dual and tri with it down the track.

and my rig is a bit of a beast and i run a 750 wat psu and i struggle to ask for 500 when its flooring it.

do away with the sound card, ram cooler (WTF) and cpu cooler and fan and go to liquid cooling if you really want to overclock, otherwise dont bother about that because the stock cooler is fine.

Also if you want really good hard drive performance, get 2 300GB WD velociraptors (theyre the fastest mechanical hard drives made) in RAID0, that will give u lighting fast hard drive spped (around 500-600MB/sec) and 600GB of storage.

get an ASUS P6T motherboard it is the fastest i7 one out and also cheaper than the gigabyte one

also do you really need blu-ray. Get faster hard drives (like I said, 2 velociraptors in RAID0) for that price

ClerkWithKnife wrote:

do away with the sound card, ram cooler (WTF) and cpu cooler and fan and go to liquid cooling if you really want to overclock, otherwise dont bother about that because the stock cooler is fine.

Also if you want really good hard drive performance, get 2 300GB WD velociraptors (theyre the fastest mechanical hard drives made) in RAID0, that will give u lighting fast hard drive spped (around 500-600MB/sec) and 600GB of storage.

get an ASUS P6T motherboard it is the fastest i7 one out and also cheaper than the gigabyte one

also do you really need blu-ray. Get faster hard drives (like I said, 2 velociraptors in RAID0) for that price

want the gigabyte one cos it is able to tri-sli and still get space for soundcard unlike p6t.
raptors are like 300 for a 300gb so thats a no no.

hmm, after hearing this ill just get a 295 and physx my 260
does a 295 micro-stutter? or is that only with quad.

I think it still might happen in a GTX 295 because it is stil SLI but it seems that it manily happens with crossfire because most people dont run the with the same type of card when in crossfire .

Upcoming graphics driver could provide the necessary balancing

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/aid,631668/Video-proof-Micro-stuttering-may-destroy-the-performance-gains-from-current-multi-GPU-technologies/Grafikkarte/Test/

with a 295 by itself i get no microstutter or lag, i get a bottleneck and a fps drop but i think its my ram. 295 with NO other cooling plays crysis wars at 50-60fps (with vsync so probably higher) at max all max AA.

tri-sli is fucking stupid. I stuck a raid card in my other slot and it was totally worth it.

the 295 barely even heats up.

but it gets loud.

I suggest 2 8500gt's with a pencil volt mod, this will allow you to play on minimum settings for upto 30 minutes before your system crashes.

your useless stfu!!

so will drop to a normal ultra 120 cooler, cheaper sound card and a
gtx 295 . also will get corsair xms3 1600mhz 8-8-8-24 for just 194 dollar and
added a tv tuner as my accient tv died a while ago.
thanks for help guys

sound card? tv tuner? Wtf.

Never pencil volt mod, you wil never be able to get accurate vtoltage the u want and lead as most people knw has a low melting point so if it get a bit to hot it will just melt away and you will have to pencil volt your resistor again, not recomened rather flash ur bios


http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1260590

TraeliumFTW wrote:

sound card? tv tuner? Wtf.

don't you know what that is? see a doctor immediately!!

pony, dw 295s get abit loud but nufin else. i got 2 and they run fine with no problems although mines only loud coz i got the case of on those really hot days. fuck tri sli and also

fuck the tv tuner
fuck the sound card
+1 clerk. fuck the ram cooler =='
stuff bluray waste of money. get a bluray when they start making bluray pc games
lower the psu
get an antec 1200 if you can more space cant hurt
get a raid0 HDD setup << fast drives
and forget the cooling and get a liquid cooling system << only if you're overclocking

yeah man, i know what a sound card is, but if you think you need one you need to see the doctor.

raid0 isnt the fastest.

its more reliable, faster, less cpu taxing and probably as cheap to get a single WD velociraptor as your hard drive rather than 2 generic ones in RAID0, thats the mistake I made, i reckon you cant beat 2 of them in RAID0 unless you look at getting SSD hard drives

SylerFTW wrote:

pony, dw 295s get abit loud but nufin else. i got 2 and they run fine with no problems although mines only loud coz i got the case of on those really hot days. fuck tri sli and also

fuck the tv tuner
fuck the sound card
+1 clerk. fuck the ram cooler =='
stuff bluray waste of money. get a bluray when they start making bluray pc games
lower the psu
get an antec 1200 if you can more space cant hurt
get a raid0 HDD setup << fast drives
and forget the cooling and get a liquid cooling system << only if you're overclocking

1. NO as i said earlier my tv died and i want to be able to watch it on pc = win and spacesaving)
2. fuck the sound card. hmm i think about it
3. fuck the ram cooler, already fucked
4. stuff blu ray..... WTF when they start making blu-ray games THEN who's prepared ;p also watch bluray on hd monitor.
5. lower the psu...... WTF i made that choice once and everytime we upgraded gfx it meant a new psu
6. antec 1200 will think about
7. i'd rather have 2x 320GB for $202 in raid0 then have one fast hdd for $300 with just 300GB
8. yea, like im gunna spend 3K to just pump h2o around my pc with just a couple of mm between it and my parts.

DaPony wrote:

SylerFTW wrote:

pony, dw 295s get abit loud but nufin else. i got 2 and they run fine with no problems although mines only loud coz i got the case of on those really hot days. fuck tri sli and also

fuck the tv tuner
fuck the sound card
+1 clerk. fuck the ram cooler =='
stuff bluray waste of money. get a bluray when they start making bluray pc games
lower the psu
get an antec 1200 if you can more space cant hurt
get a raid0 HDD setup << fast drives
and forget the cooling and get a liquid cooling system << only if you're overclocking

1. NO as i said earlier my tv died and i want to be able to watch it on pc = win and spacesaving)
2. fuck the sound card. hmm i think about it
3. fuck the ram cooler, already fucked
4. stuff blu ray..... WTF when they start making blu-ray games THEN who's prepared ;p also watch bluray on hd monitor.
5. lower the psu...... WTF i made that choice once and everytime we upgraded gfx it meant a new psu
6. antec 1200 will think about
7. i'd rather have 2x 320GB for $202 in raid0 then have one fast hdd for $300 with just 300GB
8. yea, like im gunna spend 3K to just pump h2o around my pc with just a couple of mm between it and my parts.

if you want to work on hard drives like that, i (seriously) recommend a SSD for OS and drivers, then RAID0 hard drives for non-essential programs like crysis and files and crap

man when they start making bluray game discs im still not going to care because games are a million times better pirated or downloaded on steam.

steam is gay. i brought half life 2, paid 69 dollar, when i went to play it asked me for $15.99.... IVE ALREADY PAID.
fuck it steals ya cash

lol pony your messed up. steam fucking rules.

forget steam. I reviewed what you people said and came up with a new plan

CASE
Antec TWELVE HUNDRED Full Tower Gaming Case, 12 drive bays, Advanced Cooling System, NO PSU
$303

CPU
NEW!! Intel i7-920 Core i7 CPU, 2.66 GHz, 4.8 GT/sec QPI, 8MB Cache, Socket LGA1366
$415

MotherBoard
ASUS RAMPAGE-II-EXTREME LGA1366, X58, 6DDR3, FSB1800(OC)RAID, 2GBLAN, 3xPCIE2.0, 2FW, ATX
$599 Fucken awsome ocing, tri sli support and comes with 3dmark vantage and Kaspersky Anti-Virus

CPU cooler
Thermalright TRUE COPPER CPU Heatsink for Intel Socket 775, Intel Core i7 Processor (optional), AMD Socket AM2 & AM2+ Processor
$151 with optional I7 compadability. i know water cooling is better, but i chose air cos i dun wanna fuck up with water and make boom

CPU cooler Fan
Antec "TriCool" 120mm Blue LED Case Fan with 3-Speed Switch, 120x120x25.4mm, 3/4-pin connectors, Speed: 1200~2000RPM, Noise: 25dBA~30dBA
$28

RAM
Corsair TR3X6G1600C8D 6GB (3x 2GB) PC-12800 (1600MHz) DDR3 For X58 MB/i7 Core, 3x240-pin DIMMs, Triple Kit, 8-8-8-24 1.65V
$275

Power Supply
1200W "Gigabyte" ODIN PRO Power Supply, 140mm Fan, PCI-E(6+2) Pin Conn., 6x SATA Power Connectors, SLI-Ready, 80+Certified, Cable Management,RoHS
$327 (i kno i dunn need it its for future when GT300 or GT400 are out )

Optical Drive
LG GGC-H20L BLK BluRay Combo, 6X BD-R, 3X HD-DVD, 6X DVD+-R, 5X DVD-RAM, 4X DVD+-R DL-LightScribe (Vista Ready) -Ret Pack
$171 (ur not changing my mind about bluray)

Hard Drives
A-DATA 64GB 2.5" MLC SSD (Solid State Disk) 300 Series, SATA II, Speed 150/90 MB/sec, 2-Year Warranty
$259

2xWESTERN DIGITAL WD10EADS CAVIAR GP, 1000GB, 7200RPM, SATAII, 3.5", 32MB
$264

TOTAL = $2792
Just a little unsure, should i get the 64GB or 128GB SSD it will only be for OS, also would i be able to have drivers on it?
as nvidia releases new drivers reguraly and SSD's have a poor re-write ability

Wasting your money getting that SSD drive. Anything other than an OCZ Vertex or Intel X25M are, without exagurating, shit. There's a reason it's so cheap, because you'd be better off with a mechanical drive for half the price and 10 times the storage. Spend the extra $100 on a Vertex drive and you'll be far better off.

$600 for that board seems a bit excessive. Are you planning on breaking any world O/C records? If not, don't waste your money.

seriously get the fucking Asus P6T its 339 bucks from MSY its by far the best one youll buy

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/x58-motherboard-i7,2252-21.html

if you are sumb enough to spend more than 500 bucks look here

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/x58-motherboard-i7,2164-21.html

ClerkWithKnife wrote:

seriously get the fucking Asus P6T its 339 bucks from MSY its by far the best one youll buy

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/x58-motherboard-i7,2252-21.html

if you are sumb enough to spend more than 500 bucks look here

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/x58-motherboard-i7,2164-21.html

ok ill look at the P6T. my good pc's power supply went POP lol and now im on my accient
2.0 celeron rofl. im using a 19" monitor at 640x480 with 4bit colour and the pc is working REALLY
hard lmao

reference for future: can i tri-sli with the P6T?

reference for the future: tri-sli is pointless.

TraeliumFTW wrote:

reference for the future: tri-sli is pointless.

u huh.

reference two: should i get another 260 to sli with my current 260
or should i wait till GT300?

BTW the ftw banner looks pretty cool in 4bit 640x480

Dapony is loaded?

oooooo

pony get over fucking bluray. unless ur renting or buying << dumbfuck if you do

thereare these things called torrents which allow you to download movies that have been ripped or pirated.
you should look into em.

drop the bluray and spend it on sumthing else. go buy urself sum frkn hay.

blurays a waste right now. the day blu ray games come out, kevin rudd will be giving bjs to obama

get over it

EDIT: a gt300 is only 30% faster then a 280. so waste.

gtx280/285/295 slis are the best setup. gt300 will be real expensive and its coming out near october this year. unless ur the worlds most fucking patient dude dont bothher

SylerFTW wrote:

pony get over fucking bluray. unless ur renting or buying << dumbfuck if you do

thereare these things called torrents which allow you to download movies that have been ripped or pirated.
you should look into em.

drop the bluray and spend it on sumthing else. go buy urself sum frkn hay.

blurays a waste right now. the day blu ray games come out, kevin rudd will be giving bjs to obama

get over it

EDIT: a gt300 is only 30% faster then a 280. so waste.

gtx280/285/295 slis are the best setup. gt300 will be real expensive and its coming out near october this year. unless ur the worlds most fucking patient dude dont bothher

jeez enough about blu-ray, dun get ur nickers in a know syler

show me a reliable source showing you that its only 30% faster i can only find ones that say its near to or over twice speed.
well hopefully my 260 still works either way i can wait with a 9600 until then

PS. like the sound of hay

Fucking Blue ray... It only beat hddvd in the format wars because after 2 drinks you cant even say fucking hddvd you end saying vd and laughing alot.

Anyway get a ps3 if you want a blue ray player, it is a good player and comes with a bonus gaming console.

If you are one of the dumb cunts that bought a 1080p tv and thought digital tv and dvd's were high def you are a fucking horsecat.

Blue ray is the only fucking way to watch dvd at 1080p period!

So get fucked you load of low tech dumb fucking CUNTS! final!

Wounded wrote:

buying a PS3 for blueray is definitely the way to go

sighs, I ALREADY HAVE A PS3 $&%^*((@#$%$^$E^$&&#@%$##$$^$^
im neva buying a fking widescreen TV ill just buy a shitload of 30" moniters and stick em all together if thats the case but..........
I want blu-ray cos i can watch vids on 1920x1080 on my 24" in my room because the bloody tv is always hogged by family this blu-ray for pc = win . watching normal vids it all goes blury etc even on ma 19"

get a fucking hdmi-DVI-D adaptor then play it thru the ps3

sighs.... ps3 is family not mine :\ either way where willing to spend the extra 130dollar to get bluray
so meh. Any advice on water cooling vs air cooling? is it easy to or need mantaining? is it safe?
i plan to have the 920 running at about 3.6ghz i assume air is enough for that right?

Unless you spend several hundred on decent, proper WC gear then aircooling is generally better.

mkay thanks

DaPony wrote:

sighs.... ps3 is family not mine :\ either way where willing to spend the extra 130dollar to get bluray
so meh. Any advice on water cooling vs air cooling? is it easy to or need mantaining? is it safe?
i plan to have the 920 running at about 3.6ghz i assume air is enough for that right?

you mean: "we're" as in 'we are'



you should totally make your computer case water tight, put a fan in it and fill it up with canola oil and let the fan circulate the oil around - cheap effective cooling for ALL the computer components. completely safe too.

atleast now i know why coldpreachers pc made a big boom

ok almost certianly getting a P6T just one more question. im a noob when it comes to picking a board
and overclocking cpu, will i be able to have a 920 at 3.6 atleast stable on that board? as it seems a little cheap for overclocking
that much

overclocking ends up trial and error alot of the time, what level of speed you end up achieving will depend on your entire system config