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PostSubject: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 8:29 am

Looking at upgrading my computer for Crysis 2 late this year/early next year, Current specs:

i7 920 @2.66ghz
6gb RAM @ 2000mhz
Asus P6T mobo
2x Seagate Barracuda 500gb HDDs in RAID-0
1200W Thermaltake Toughpower PSU (Dont comment on this - technologically inept and very rich ex-girlfriend bought it for me)
Nvidia GTX 260, OC'd to 650mhz engine, 1352mhz shader, 2160mhz memory.

I'm thinking about an EVGA superclocked 470:

http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=012-P3-1472-AR&family=GeForce%20400%20Series%20Family&sw=

Worth it? Worth looking to upgrade in other areas? I also currently have a script in place that lets me use graphics acceleration in CS5 and Maya, not sure how effective it is though, and as this is a working computer I want that extra power.
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 8:47 am

Do you experience lag in your programs and games?
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 8:56 am

Not much really, but I have noticed that my rig can still struggle at top-end settings, and I'm not even using an HD screen at the moment. Maybe I've been flogging my graphics card a little too much, I dunno.
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 9:00 am

I don't see a logical reason to upgrade now for a game that will be released next year and can also work on 390 and ps3. I would wait till the time is right.
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 9:02 am

Overclock your Cpu, & get a new Graphics card.

A single 480, or
2 x 460 (not sure if your motherboard supports sli), or
wait for Ati revised cards towards the end of the year.
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 9:46 am

+1 to bobby OC the CPU first m8...at 3.6 you will see a big difference to the GPU speed also.
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 10:33 am

Gtx460. 2 of them are cheaper then a single 480
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 10:44 am

I'm gonna wait til i actually get Crysis2 before I consider upgrading. If I do it'll be again on a budget of $1000 which should be plenty for a good box then, as I won't need new monitors, keyboard or mouse (though considering a new mouse).

Given my computer can still play everything alright and it could play Wars at decent framerate, I should be okay.
Otherwise I'll see if I can get an i7 or something, good graphics card (not sure on nvidia or ATI at the moment.. see how mine handles C2), 6 gb ram and run it on 64bit win7. Maybe even a solidstate drive if im feeling craaaaazy but that'll up the cost, so just a terrabyte HDD will do.
Of course, I'll still have my shitty net to play on so that'll make me suffer anyways. My current box can be for everyday stuff and the new one for more demanding tasks.
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 11:16 am

wat bob said is spot on, the new so called cards coming out from radeon are smicko, im a nvidia all the way but im thinking of going to the dark side for these cards, they look totally 480 destroying

oh and yea wait for the game, and get less ram, 6g of 1333 will do you sweet, for no diff besides the price

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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 11:41 am

Yea i have heard about ears rig it was like a e 8400 with ddr2 and a GTX 260

Nice upgrade BTW

The only downside to running the new GTX 400 series is that they lag on like basic games like MW2 and some others going from a 9800 GTX + to a GTX 260 i was like WTF . This is due to to the realy high latency timing on the GFX card going from GDDR3 TO GDDR5
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 12:01 pm

i have a GTX480 and i dont notice any kind of lag, when playing on the 260 i noticed alittle bit, but the 480 eliminated it.

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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 12:21 pm

Virtuoso X wrote:
i have a GTX480 and i dont notice any kind of lag, when playing on the 260 i noticed alittle bit, but the 480 eliminated it.


Na playing on 1 of nappy bois GTX 460 i was like WTF playing MW2, dunno if it was coz my i didnt have enough memory of some shit but i would have to say the best gaming experiese i had was with my 9800 GTX with Mw2 and all other game hands down.
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyThu Aug 19, 2010 1:10 pm

I would do as Bob and cos have said with the Cpu, as for the Gpu, 260's in sli would be fine and the cheap way out but if you want to play in dx11 you need the next gen in cards.
With that Psu you have you could run 480's in sli no brob's and all setings on high. Just need the 1.3k to pay for them lol.
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptySun Aug 22, 2010 2:07 pm

I did the OC, shits faster now but most things seem jittery as fuck. Vanilla Crysis runs nicely, everything max AA2x stable 30frames. Strangely though GTA4 is extremely jittery, even though its running at lower stats than Crysis. Also firefox has become a little jumpy.

All I did to overclock was change the CPU multiplier to 20x and my BLCK to 150. Is there something i haven't accounted for?

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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptySun Aug 22, 2010 2:13 pm

Your RAM?
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptySun Aug 22, 2010 3:13 pm

gta 4 was fucky with me as well, only managed a max frame rate of like 30 with most settings
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 10:22 am

I don't see how there could be any problem with RAM, I checked and everything else seemed fine to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 10:58 am

gta 4 is real performance user. i'm assuming you would need a top of the range computer to run it normally.
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 11:06 am

or you could be normal and play it on xbox
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 11:22 am

Earz4life wrote:
I don't see how there could be any problem with RAM, I checked and everything else seemed fine to me.

idk if its with other processors but when i OC my cpu it OC my RAM with it, anything over the recommended speed will seriously play up.

what cpu you got earz?
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 1:19 pm

Running an i7 920. Also there's no point in OC'ing the RAM, its already at 2150MHz
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 2:06 pm

i was under the impression that to OC the cpu clock you HAD to OC the ram....
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 2:13 pm

Yeah I dunno I dont do much overclocking, you're probably right.
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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 2:38 pm

Not sure on the i7 motherboards, but in general your Cpu clock is related to your memory speed. There should be an option for host:memory ratio in your bios. So increasing your FSB increases ur memory speed as well, pending on the ratio.

Simple check is to run Cpu-z and see what speed your memory is running at, as you may have overclocked or down clocked it. Overclocking too much will make your system unstable

Ive found that Overclcoking memory doesnt help speed your system up that much, better to get it to run close to its original speed.

Anyway im sure someone else can help you more, specifically for i7's cause im pretty sure they control memory differently.

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PostSubject: Re: Worth it?   Worth it? EmptyMon Aug 23, 2010 5:40 pm

Alrighty Earz, make sure your QPi link is set to manual, it might be at 7Ghz have a look input the value manuallty insted of it on Auto (6x or 8x).

Your ram Automatically OC with CPU but you can control that, Im assuming your ram can handle 2150 Mhz? you can manually input the value for the ram multiplyer, sometimes having it too high will cause system instability, what i usually do is also set the Ram voltage manually insted of Auto since ALL X58 boards MUST run ram at 1.65 V (or lower nothing higher )
ive got mine set to 1.64v also all your voltages should be on auto to test it out at start then decrease.


EIST, C1E, Hyperthreading = Disabled for best stablility and performance,

also known as speedstepping etc etc, anything "envirmentally friendly" needs to be disabled or itll be like your running stock.

Also what motherboard you got?

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